00:00:00: Hello Dental friends in this podcast I talked with minda goes about the workflow of taking a picture and making a post on Facebook this

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00:00:28: Welcome to this show I'm connected here with Mindy gasps hi mindaugas ra hey girl.

00:00:35: I'm good how are you this Friday morning yeah Friday morning is a great time for us parents yeah while the kids are sleeping.

00:00:44: Mine are out in kindergarten so it's peaceful at home at least yeah okay that's a great time we're going to have a our first lecture together actually in November and I'm really looking forward to it.

00:00:55: Yeah me too the topic will be direct post Endo it's interesting because I have for example one case where you kind of correct it my accuser and atomy in the Facebook by giving hints afterward yeah that's the place that.

00:01:10: So it's always fun to lecture with you will see if you have some correction ideas for my cases at the well yeah

00:01:18: of course we can see that yeah we have seen like I always say there's always room for improvement you know.

00:01:26: Yeah so on my end I guess you won't be too harsh on my end oh you know I stopped I stopped doing Kendo.

00:01:32: Like for two years now but I have some cases with like I did.

00:01:37: Five six years ago I'll have in the lecture so we'll see how it looks.

00:01:43: I mean we don't have to show any x-rays really not necessary as if we talk about direct yeah but

00:01:50: if it's a case you know it's always nice to have a full picture fully protocols yeah that's that's how I'm raised you know in Facebook doing full protocol yeah actually I mean we are both active on ripe and,

00:02:03: it kind of we already did a podcast like I wanted to look it up it was already three years ago or four years ago something like that yeah.

00:02:13: So and it's interesting I mean we both don't

00:02:16: post as much as we used to now our kind of took over whenever I see like this top 10 and ripe who's posting a lot I'm kind of lie yeah I was already once in this top 10,

00:02:28: yes but but time flies and sometimes it's just very hard to keep up.

00:02:37: It's not always even the cases I feel like I have more cases to post now it's just the lack of time to actually sit down and do them.

00:02:47: So we have still the photograph fever so we're still document a lot of cases but just post the yeah and.

00:02:55: Sometimes I think about that there actually so many people that are doing great dentistry and actually taking pictures of it.

00:03:03: But they just don't post it and we're not aware of them so.

00:03:07: I always try to encourage people you know if you really taking pictures and having nice cases.

00:03:14: Very good to be out in the open and actually sharing them with.

00:03:19: Everyone yeah sometimes people ask me how I started with lecturing I'm like basically I started posting and ripe and full growth.

00:03:28: Yeah same story here the road to success you know start posting cases and if they're graded that it's just a matter of time before someone picks you up and.

00:03:39: Asks you for a course yeah actually on my side it wasn't really asked nobody really asked me for a course I kind of approach them with giving them pictures as well there were,

00:03:51: kind of really fast on track okay yeah we want you okay I guess that's a nice topic to talk about how you you know what kind of impact

00:04:00: you can get from taking pictures of your work baby we start with how the process of taking a picture and putting it on Facebook or Instagram / actually works or please cause my workflow basically didn't change in all those years

00:04:13: did you up kind of workflow changed now I am date my keynote templates from time to time maybe you know.

00:04:20: Different font for the text or a new logo or whatever but otherwise I'm very straightforward with my protocol.

00:04:28: What I would like to change this I would like to start shooting raw and have more editing.

00:04:34: But it's impossible at this moment because it would take just too much time from my work so.

00:04:41: I'll just keep shooting jpegs and you know just doing some simple Corrections,

00:04:46: look at interesting because I was told shoot in raw right away I kind of never changed it

00:04:52: so I always have to Brown's jpg and basically I download the pictures of the face in on my computer and then put them into Lightroom

00:05:01: and kind of I mean Lightroom is supposed to like YouTube or and you can probably do a lot more when I'm doing but I'm basically just clicking on cutting for 16 to 9

00:05:14: it's a cutting 262 9 is a feature I just found out recently

00:05:21: before that it was just like oh that's like a nice catch here and when switching it over to Keynotes and resizing it again yeah so actually this is kind of speeded up the process a little bit okay but basically

00:05:39: it's just takes a picture I still have my Canon 70D with my mad splits I've been using for ages,

00:05:47: the only fingers when I read that maths can of out of business that I went on eBay and brought a second Matt splits just in case okay

00:05:55: metz's iWireless now it's a wireless yeah that's very cool I mean it's

00:06:00: I kind of choose to him because when if I ever want to have this cool pearlized filter I know that it's supported.

00:06:07: Okay that was one reason and actually people on style Italian or also said it's a good Flash and I got it quite for a reasonable price actually from a dentist on eBay.

00:06:19: Okay so the thing with the Met splits you only always have to have fully charged batteries

00:06:24: because sometimes you would like switch it on and there's like it green light blinking when it's ready and sometimes it's not blinking we like your want to have the camera in place it kind of just wait for the flesh to be active and that's the moment

00:06:39: which kind of sucks yeah but you were happy with Wyatt flash right well I have.

00:06:44: A lot of photo gear so it's like Dental hobby of mine I guess Dental talk Rafi so.

00:06:50: Actually today I should get my new camera it's very exciting,

00:06:55: I was thinking a lot about it because you know it's when you have a hobby related to your business

00:07:01: your hobby becomes your business expense and that's easy to spend you know so sometimes we had you just have to hold your horses not to buy a necessary stuff the you will not use to full potential.

00:07:15: So yeah I'm waiting for my mirrorless z7 from Nikon full frame lots of megapixels I'm not really looking at,

00:07:23: that much better image quality because we know the limitations of micro lens and diffraction and all these things but I had Z6 for a week I got it from my friend just to try it out,

00:07:36: the actual workflow the actual shooting

00:07:39: through the mirrorless camera was so much better than the DSLR one I mean the electronic viewfinder is a game changer because even when you shoot you know that this style of the lower third molar when this like dark as hell.

00:07:54: That's not a problem for mirrorless camera because you always see bright picture so it's very easy to focus and you know at least I'm a manual focus shooter for dental.

00:08:05: So it's quite important and then there's things like focus peaking so the pixels that are in Focus are lighting up in the screen.

00:08:14: So you actually know if you're sharp or not so that's that's very very nice.

00:08:19: The only drawback was the weight balance it was a bit off because the body is very small.

00:08:25: So the heavier lenses especially if Mountain through the adapter there they're quite heavy on the wrist but Nikon has this news amount macro lens I might go for it later on and yeah it should be it should be a good combination.

00:08:41: This brings me to the flashes I gave my wire to ring Flash and my old micro set up to my dental hygienist.

00:08:49: So she can take pictures I really encourage everyone in the practice to do that.

00:08:55: And yeah so at the moment I'm using the the wireless R1 kit from Nikon.

00:09:01: But even here I'm looking for improvement and I have something on my mind that could be cool yeah actually the fun thing plays we're working by roids

00:09:11: on the portal go Michael prayer was also a Canon 70D like the same I had so I brought a used macro lens a Tamron Lens which was quite cheap because the autofocus was not working

00:09:23: and since I'm also only using the manual it doesn't play a role for me.

00:09:27: So I switch also these Cannon 24 MX flash on it so I have 2 cameras sometimes in my room if I want to use it for the interior like with paper bouncers on it and everything.

00:09:40: But actually I recently kind of discovered on Instagram this Minish Patel who's doing really nice shots and has also like kind of a,

00:09:49: special bouncers really expensive ones of course who are custom-made and kind of a system and the pictures are really looking good so I might visit booked my first photo that the photography Gras course

00:10:03: okay so for next year just to learn a bit more from a professional because before but I never took a photography course I will

00:10:12: I basically just kind of found out what I what year is recommended brought it and it was trying out a lot

00:10:20: I also never changed on my.

00:10:24: Canon the settings as a 70D has really nice feature that was like an lock mechanism that you can't change the iso and whatever okay for over.

00:10:37: Seven years or six years since stayed the same.

00:10:40: You should check whether the patent is not stuck you know it's stuck - it's stuck it's now hard wires you know I think I could glue it as well as I haven't knew about this feature

00:10:53: actually it could be a good selling point for dental offices looking to buy a camera setup,

00:10:58: because I always get complaints from dentist that they buy a camera give.

00:11:03: It's to you all the practice to use and someone always changes something and the pictures are you know ending up looking weird so this is actually cool.

00:11:13: Cool cool Concepts from the cannon on this end yeah actually if you have a zero more of of the Cannons we don't have this feature because it's an entry level and the 70D is like a mid-level it's not a full frame but I think it's.

00:11:28: Completely okay even for lectures of course if you're planning to lecture on the Seattle static Club you might switch to full frame very soon but I don't think I'm not yet aware yeah there's still,

00:11:42: there's still time.

00:11:45: Yeah and you have to say one drawback of the full frame as I know it from for example from a microscope I have a Sony Alpha 7 something there.

00:11:55: Actually this camera is switched on purpose just to jpeg because this is Wars are so huge it really really takes up a lot of space

00:12:05: on my hard drive and with this microscope pictures since I'm

00:12:10: kind of try it to connect it with a flash to get better pictures but it doesn't really didn't really work out although for example the flexural microscope where tried it

00:12:21: due to substandard photograph rapid at the lens you can attach really easy flashes there but still just didn't change a lot.

00:12:30: Yeah because the microscope is not a very good macro lens around its.

00:12:34: Just the Optics are not there or I guess depending on the scope you have to have aperture control I don't have it in my flexagon and.

00:12:42: Even if it if it would be maybe a bit more streamlined to take pictures through the microscope the quality will I guess never be there.

00:12:51: You'll still have to take your camera.

00:12:53: So if you want some quality you'll you still have to have a proper camera if you're doing it just for you no insurance or.

00:13:01: Just to take a quick picture then even the LED light source and the microscope it will work quite well I mean it's a bit like some people

00:13:09: some dents in Germany have slices into our camera Direct on VA Dental unit are very expensive this cameras I'm like I know to 5,000 Euros they are very convenient usually because all set up to be saved automatically on the computer

00:13:23: start a documented case of it and but as soon as you want to do a lecture out of it you realize that it's really a shitty.

00:13:30: Camera it's it's like comparing I don't know iPhone to alt all type of webcam you know 640 by 800 pixels it's like the image qualities.

00:13:41: Yeah I think it's the new ones with HD something still what's but for patients it's great so I would say in the microscope pictures are for patients very great.

00:13:52: To show them but we discuss dfl workflow deal I mean you shoot your pictures you have it on your SD card and you plug the SD card in the

00:14:01: computer yeah of course actually a friend of mine told me that he's using kind of the Lightroom tethered shooting mode okay and.

00:14:10: I've had replace the connect actually that's my next try I just brought a different Mac old MacBook Pro,

00:14:17: to have it in my office and to connect it and see if this if this works because sometimes it's kind of taking,

00:14:25: quite some time for example if you look at your SD card to look at the dates and feel like oh I haven't looked for a month on this SD card really have to find out which patient was it.

00:14:37: Okay so.

00:14:40: In that regard I've tried Eye-Fi Wireless SD cards for a while it was very convenient because while the camera was idle the images would transfer to the computer.

00:14:52: Did the one drawback was it needs a Wi-Fi so if your computer is currently connected to one Wi-Fi it has to reconnect to the SD card so ideally you have to have a second separate Wi-Fi card just for the camera.

00:15:06: It drains the battery of the camera quite a lot so you have to charge your camera every second day the biggest drawback for me was is.

00:15:13: You take pictures like for a consult of a patient and then you want to show the pictures for him and you have to wait so I found out it's just.

00:15:23: Quicker just to plug in the.

00:15:25: There's the card at least once a day I'm using OneDrive for my backups so all my pictures goes to go straight to the OneDrive.

00:15:34: Only recently found out that there's like something called I guess camera picture import or whatever so whenever it automatically detects the SD card,

00:15:44: checks whether there are new pictures and automatically downloads it to the folder named by that date

00:15:51: so it's very convenient so at least I have them sorted by the day I also used started using practice management software online cloud-based.

00:16:02: So I can easily assign pictures to the patient's by the procedure so whenever the patient comes back you know I can see what I did three months ago without going

00:16:13: through the folders trying to find the pictures trying to find the names and it's really cool really handy

00:16:18: so from there I just download the pictures it's a very cool especially if I'm doing you know some indirect and the pictures get lost through the five or six appointments.

00:16:29: So now we only have to open up the patient's card click the pictures download them and one folder and then I can go to my a keynote presentation.

00:16:40: Actually I still don't have any cloud service for that I even for some time I kind of try to use some keywords in Lightroom but

00:16:51: the thing is whenever you change your computer as a kind of keywords I lost all and never found out how to transfer this things,

00:16:58: but usually my practice practice management system only gifts patient basically a number and I just use this number in this folder so so this kind of

00:17:08: little bit

00:17:09: the descriptions as well so I don't have to find this one smooth guy which which we have plenty of in Germany schvitz so it's just the number.

00:17:21: I've been I basically see all the pictures to promises if you have a patient where you took a lot of pictures that's kind of a mess and I even had some problem that you know the Canon pictures we have kind of numbers.

00:17:33: After some time very Pete and with one patient I really hated

00:17:37: to open a different folder within the folder because the same numbers approached again which is quite rare but we talked about 10,000 numbers and just this patient's head.

00:17:49: By accident by chance is this the same thing okay.

00:17:54: You should take a look since you're a candle shooter I couldn't find it on my Nikon but I went to one course about how to implement you know digital Technologies for better communication and,

00:18:05: patient status capturing so there's was a little bit about photography the guy who talked about it he's a Canon shooter and he said there is an option in Canon too.

00:18:15: I said the filename to actually be numbered by the date.

00:18:20: It would be very convenient because it would kind of sort it out itself and it would be easier to look for.

00:18:27: If the Falcons lost I mean with Advantage for this number thing

00:18:32: because I only need to remember when have a lot of files on the SD card which was the last number of this patient's picture so I just start dragging and dropping and actually I have to look it up with dates,

00:18:46: but because we can be nice you know whenever it's a cloud in Germany everybody's like very scared is it secure this is Gigi the are

00:18:56: acceptable I mean for for my private pictures on the iPhone I have also OneDrive.

00:19:04: And it's uploading immediately so it was kind of cruel to even like install it at all cell phones and it's uploading everything,

00:19:12: I mean I have one terabyte of online Cloud servers which is also nice.

00:19:18: Very nice usually sometimes when I doing a lecture and I'm kind of having a script for the participant I started to just like blending in a QR code at the beginning so Quebec and download it.

00:19:31: Because people kind of start using tablets as well so they can kind of follow the lecture on the tablet as well

00:19:38: but if the light is sometimes very unforgiving and let hotel room spaces when it comes to the quality of the pictures on the screen.

00:19:49: Okay that's the tablet it's much better to follow up properly,

00:19:52: okay yeah or actually asking a hotel to bring in huge TV if possible yeah actually I don't know I find that the lecturing.

00:20:03: Will the TV so much better than the projector unless it's a very good one though it's for sure because the TV is so

00:20:11: much much better because when you bring some times when we have there

00:20:16: bhima projection it's really that just brings something in you kind of have to see where you put it in the room some of the pictures big enough with the big TV you kind of already always know what you get

00:20:28: it would be nice if it like a foldable one you can bring yourself I already thought about buying my own projector as well.

00:20:36: So I really actually know what kind of quality I will expect

00:20:40: it's also a nice business write-off maybe could use with the kids as well that would be cool going down the rabbit hole for the documentation of cases what what's your take on video taking.

00:20:54: For the scope of you went right into it not really I mean I like showing videos of certain

00:21:02: things but let's be honest if it's an endo case nobody really wants to see how I put my file inside out maybe it's a bit funny to like Caesar Eddie or ultrasonic and some,

00:21:15: it's basically boring the only fun thing is in Retreat moments when you use the XP shaper and you.

00:21:23: Pull it out and it's full of capacitor or wiggled around,

00:21:26: but even on the video you don't really see it for a take a Composites of of the upper centrioles it's quite nice to have a video

00:21:35: because you kind of have direct Vision so very video is kind of nice for some Potter me case it's nice how when they see how you do the Porta me and kind of

00:21:46: put the MTA or by Odin teen on to the canals but it's just like really small short sequences

00:21:55: because nobody wants to see how long you cures copper side for polishing it could be effective on an exam for example when you look at Instagram accounts likes this Indonesian guys we are posting a lot of video.

00:22:09: And it makes sense for social media for lecture it's kind of so so you could record like in a Hands-On Workshop.

00:22:19: With a different camera settings so that would be could be nice,

00:22:23: so whenever you cure it you talked to two for 20 seconds into the camera or you can cut it afterwards if you don't mind you know,

00:22:33: post production the problem is.

00:22:35: Cutting afterwards actually it's taking also a lot of time but that's what I that's why I asked because I I tried venturing into it I still have five I don't know half a half of a terabyte I guess of the video footage,

00:22:50: that's just crazy amount of time you have to actually.

00:22:53: Download everything and then upload it into your iMovie or whatever and then try to cut it and then computer gets crazy.

00:23:03: Because it's very resource-hungry process so I think.

00:23:09: I still want to get back to it I think I saw one practice and your grain offering the patient's DVDs after the treatment is done so,

00:23:18: like she would like the ultimate documentation you take the pictures you take the video of the procedure done and then the patient gets the whole package of to see what was done.

00:23:28: I don't know it's if it's a very good idea or a very bad one but.

00:23:32: It's about bet on the spending on the point of view yet it's like,

00:23:41: it's like with the gdpr I guess the MIT the the initial idea of it was very good one but in reality we see it's it's it's not so.

00:23:52: But actually what I saw already brought Ricardo to Nene kind of had at the a tech to buy also streamed like one lecture with Workshop directly to Facebook

00:24:05: hit

00:24:07: it's called an Autumn mini pro mocks but he kind of could have plugged in different video inputs for example one was from the selection computer one was fun was iPhone who was just connected to a ring light for filming him directly

00:24:21: but hit the different camera just for the workshop part so you could switch between this sources and kind of do the workshop that could be interesting as well for the zoom meetings to have it a bit more interaction and when you,

00:24:35: could talk about Endo I mean with you would kind of Mount camera it is space very very kind of just see the whole rubber Dam.

00:24:44: Process when the scope and then maybe just electric measurement for Endo it could.

00:24:51: Be interesting that you have multiple view someone would kind of switch what's now interesting or if you have that could be a future for education.

00:25:01: For workshops.

00:25:03: It could be it feels like we were now like and what second year of this crazy crazy times and it feels like people are still hungry for the good old in-person Hands-On courses.

00:25:17: Webinars are very nice but they're also not the same as the good old lecture on the stage so.

00:25:24: Coffee breaks we talk with our just Grace crazy level of and actually I guess going out and changing the environment is always nice.

00:25:35: It's always nice I think we covered basically everything you need about photography.

00:25:41: Might think nobody's really smarter after that,

00:25:51: yeah but to sum it up just get the camera Lightroom and vent that's it.

00:25:57: Yeah the only drawback today is that the Lightroom is only available in these monthly fee okay apps which kind of sucks.

00:26:07: So my advice would be don't get a Lightroom just go straight to the keynote and that's it,

00:26:13: oh really that's what I do yeah okay well I'm not developing Ross so I'm working straight jpegs so it saves some time and.

00:26:23: Some money.

00:26:25: Okay I mean the only advantage of Lightroom is that it's a non-destructive cutting of the images and you kind of can always go back to the source.

00:26:34: To kind of see what was the original image at the beginning I'd used PowerPoint on a PC and not Lightroom so maybe

00:26:42: Sakina autism in keynote maybe the keynote is just better for this workflow it really is it's very good so we have to buy a Mac,

00:26:50: that eventually it will be more expensive than.

00:26:53: Lightroom but do you get can't buy a used necrosis aged HDMI output for 700 euros on I-80 Bay I mean it's quite.

00:27:05: Interesting how much these old Macs are worth but we're still supported what's good yeah cool.

00:27:15: So thanks for the talk middle girls it was pleasure today to talk to you and I guess see you later in the next weeks for the lecture and the questions and answers yeah.

00:27:27: Bye-bye.